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"Khalbali" (khalbali2) 10/22/2020 at 16:50 • Filed to: None

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Had my very first hand gun class last night, had never shot a gun before. Went pretty well I think, now I’m just stuck waiting for my foid card. Plan is a nice safe and a Ruger wrangler to practice with, would like to get a gp100 someday but it’ll be a while, wife is skeptical about guns and I can’t afford another big money hobby right now. The safe is most important to keep the wife happy, probably gonna go with that fort knox one rusty vandura posted a while back.

Only 7 yards but my very first shooting practice.

Grindintosecond > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:03

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Target shooting is fun.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:04

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Nice! I’d love to get into shooting, but...wife approval. 

Khalbali > Grindintosecond 10/22/2020 at 17:05

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It was, driving isn't as satisfying now that I don't like in the rockies so I've been looking for another hobby to pick up the slack. I don't really believe in guns for self defense most of the time but it is fun just to go shoot some paper.

Khalbali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 10/22/2020 at 17:12

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That is important for sure, my wife gets final say for sure, she’s struggled with depression in the past and while she’s doing good these days, we’re still trying to work out a solution that we're comfortable  with, she will definitely not have access. Some ranges let you rent lockers there so I might just do that, but the closest most convenient range does not so we’re considering other options.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:13

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i need one of these

you know..... for home defense

from several miles away

(not that i could ever pass the background check over here..)

Khalbali > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2020 at 17:15

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That does look cool but I’m not a home defense/carry guy at all, this is purely a toy. As such I’ll be sticking with the manual trans of guns, single action revolvers and maybe a bolt action rifle.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:17

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I have a single-action Uberti colt repro. Great gun.

atfsgeoff > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:19

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+1 on the GP100. I haven’t personally fired a Wrangler, and it is built to a low price point so it’s mostly zinc and aluminum, but being chambered for .22lr it should still last awhile.

I picked up a GP100 in .22lr earlier this year and it’s been a fantastic target pistol:

10 round group in just an inch and a half at 20 yards, and I’m sure the gun is capable of better. I’m the limiting factor lol

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:20

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lol tbh i was mostly joking there... tho... the barret 50 call cannon is one hell of piece of work..i’d love to have one.... for funsies

i couldnt use it tho.... wonky eyesight....scopes and me dont mix

ill take a lee enfield

xc90v8/I4 :( > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:24

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Nice! I enjoy the challenge and trying to improve

What sort of distance was that?

barnie > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:24

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Good on ya! Even if ya never need to use a gun, it’s good to know how. Like a hammer. An d I find it a lot of fun and a stress reliever to just go bang little holes into pieces of paper with my friends. Take your wife with you. A good instructor will know how to talk to her. FWIW, i f you’re r ight handed, y ou’re jerking the trigger. Left down diagonal groups indicate this. Squeeze yer hand as you squeeze the trigger. I keep a hand exerciser , coil spring with handles thingy, that I only use with 3 fingers and thumb to teach my trigger finger to work independently of the rest. Turn it up side down and work just the trigger finger for strength , too.

NYankee1927 > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:27

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Glockositlock? Stupid CA here we don’t get to own anything fun.

Poor_Sh > NYankee1927 10/22/2020 at 17:33

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Kinda same idea, but.... Oppositeglock.

Khalbali > xc90v8/I4 :( 10/22/2020 at 17:56

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Only 7 yards, it was more a beginner safety class with just 25 rounds for practice. That’s the idea though, just something to focus on and clear my mind. I’d like to try archery and axe throwing sometime too.

Maxima Speed > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 17:57

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Nice! I always think regardless of where people stand on gun issues that an understanding of guns and how to use them and a rough idea of how they work can be helpful.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2020 at 17:58

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I’ve shot one.  It is amazing.  

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:02

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I need  to get back to the range, but ammo is too fucking expensive now

Khalbali > atfsgeoff 10/22/2020 at 18:02

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It’s beautiful for sure , I feel like I’d have to go to the .357 though for the price. I haven’t shot the wrangler yet and I know it’s budget but it’s a nice cheap entry point with positive reviews, especially since I guess we can’t get the heritage rough rider here in illinois. But whenever I upgrade I feel like it would have to be a .357 even though I’d probably shoot .38sp 99% of the time.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:04

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I love shooting, it’s a fun hobby. And it sounds like you’re getting into it the right way - with training. Buying a safe is also important.

I’ve been involved off and on in shooting sports since I got my rifle merit badge in Boy Scouts. I now coach a junior rifle team (kids 12-18 shooting 22s and air rifles) and I compete a bit myself. I used to do sporting clay tournaments, have done a few pistol competitions, and now I shoot some 3 gun. I don’t do it often, usually only a couple matches a year, but it’s so much fun. This past weekend I shot the annual Zombie 3 Gun Invitational. I also collect antique firearms and build some of my own.

If you ever have any questions, just ask!  

Khalbali > barnie 10/22/2020 at 18:05

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Wife is maybe open to going to the range sometime but is nervous about guns and won't have access to it ever without me, I might just rent a locker at a less convenient range.  I am right handed though so thanks for the advice, it’ll be a while till I get to shoot again though need to get my card first, even to rent a gun at the range.

Khalbali > NYankee1927 10/22/2020 at 18:06

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That is better, I honestly don't even know what it was that I was shooting, it was just a range gun, it was some kind of semiauto .22 but that's all I know.

Khalbali > Poor_Sh 10/22/2020 at 18:06

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That is better, I honestly don’t even know what it was that I was shooting, it was just a range gun, it was some kind of semiauto .22 but that’s all I know.

sn4cktimes > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2020 at 18:06

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I’m right handed but left eye dominant. Made sights and scopes awkward feeling for a long time when I was learning to shoot as a kid. When I did my marksmanship cert as a cadet I wore an eyepatch. We had to use old Lee Enfields mk3 I think to do it with. Had to shoot out a target square in under a minute with iron  sights. The casings often got stuck and it took 6-8 pretty perfect shots to do it. Burnt the end of my finger picking casings out to get it done. 

Grindintosecond > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:07

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take up flying.....certainly not expensive. not at all. nope.

I guess, f ind a cartridge thats cheap, and get a good solid but affordable gun for it. Happieness follows. Googling says the 9mm and .40s&w seems completely universally everywhere and plentiful. .22lr is nice if youre just target shoting or looking for squirrel and rabbit to eat....if that’s your new lifestyle in post-apocolyptiCOVID society. I’m not a gun guy myself, but I appreciate capability through efficient design process and not just brute force.

VincentMalamute-Kim > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2020 at 18:17

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The Barrett equivalent from the French company PGM; Ultima Ratio Hecate II. I love the name “Last Resort”.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:19

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Your target looks better than mine at 15 feet.

Khalbali > Maxima Speed 10/22/2020 at 18:20

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Definitely. I definitely wouldn't consider myself pro gun, I do think a lot of changes need to be made, but it is also fun.

Khalbali > Grindintosecond 10/22/2020 at 18:22

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Yeah I'm gonna start with a .22lr so that I can afford to use it, but ideally I'd like to upgrade to a .38/.357 at some point when it's reasonable.

Khalbali > VincentMalamute-Kim 10/22/2020 at 18:23

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To be fair the first five or so we re at 15 feet, then the rest at 21. The headshots were all at 21 so that shows the difference lol. But I was pretty proud for literally my first time ever, I think I've only even shot a bb gun a few times before this.

Khalbali > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 10/22/2020 at 18:24

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Yeah, I'm definitely gonna start with .22lr so that I can actually afford to practice.

Khalbali > Snuze: Needs another Swede 10/22/2020 at 18:30

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For sure, thanks! The safety is paramount, my wife has struggled with depression in the past so she will definitely not have access to the gun ever even though she’s doing well now, we’re still working out exactly what that means but I might just switch to a less convenient range that rents lockers there, I’m don’t really believe in guns for self defense most of the time so I don’t necessarily need it in the house. If I can find/afford a secure enough safe that we feel comfortable with the gun would stay disassembled in there and she would obviously not have access. She’s supportive of me wanting to try it as a hobby, just scared she’ll end up back in a dark place someday. I do appreciate antiques or at least retro models, it’s about the mechanical and tactile experience for me so I’m wanting to stick to revolvers I think.

atfsgeoff > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:46

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Hopefully by the time you’re ready to buy, the supply/demand will have normalized. Right now the pandemic has caused a massive run on firearms, so it’s a seller’s market. Deals on new and used guns are few and far between.

koawaft1 > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:53

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I was going to say buy the safe before the gun but you seem to have that covered.

Quick story, first time I fired g un was a glock 9m. It was during a competition. I believe it was called “defensive pistols” you shoot at targets to immobilize is the goal. Some shots are standing, others while walking, some behind cover. It is timed and it starts with your draw. My goal was to not shoot my foot. I was proud. I got top 5! Out of about 7 but still....

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 18:55

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Good luck getting any ammo at a reasonable rate now

xc90v8/I4 :( > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 19:03

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Sure, it’s nice to learn the basics (and safety in this case) while also achieving some results. I usually do 25meters 

Yeah try as many things as possible before one gets obsessive.. 

jminer > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 10/22/2020 at 19:11

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Election time fun!

Bandit > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 19:25

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Depending on what you purchase I would suggest also separating ammunition, magazines, and possibly the slide/bolt if you do not have a cable slide lock.

Bandit > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 19:25

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Depending on what you purchase I would suggest also separating ammunition, magazines, and possibly the slide/bolt if you do not have a cable slide lock.

benn454 > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 19:27

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You could upgrade to a sequential and get a 1911. Semiautomatic, but single action. Also, every time you shoot it, a bald eagle gets its wings.

barnie > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 19:46

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I understand; suffer depression myself. Twice had a 1911 in front of me, twice my cats have saved me. Her getting comfortable with them can’t hurt. So much negative out there about how awful guns are. They aren’t; they are just another tool. And she might get relief, like I do, but banging of a few rounds.

barnie > Grindintosecond 10/22/2020 at 19:49

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Amen! The pew pew at the paper is fun . Making smaller and smaller groups further and further away. And then bigger holes with bigger guns!

barnie > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 10/22/2020 at 19:59

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Wow! Due to your post I went looking for ammo in my calibers just to see. You’re right! Sold Out everywhere. And since my calibers (.32, .45 ACP, & .500 mag) a re reloadable, w ent looking for supplies. They are way up in price, too! Available but expensive, like 200% up. Grateful that I have enough for a few months...

benn454 > NYankee1927 10/22/2020 at 20:23

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 Glock is the Camry of pistols. 

Khalbali > Bandit 10/22/2020 at 20:24

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It would be a revolver of some kind but yes, it will definitely be disassembled in someway if it’s kept in the house even in a safe. But obviously if someone were determined enough they would find a way, gun or no gun, it’s all about thwartin g the first ten minutes or so and she's been very open about where she's at the whole time. I'd probably just hide the cylinder somewhere else or something too.

Khalbali > barnie 10/22/2020 at 20:36

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Yeah it’s possible she would, but I need to get a lot more confident myself first. She’s open to it though, just adamant that she not be able to access it at home so if it’s even at home at all it needs to be locked up and disassembled, might hide the cylinder or something too. They are a tool but I also do think that changes need to happen. I understand people that grew up around them might feel differently but to me it’s just a hobby, if the government ever decided to ban guns completely I’d be the first to turn them in. I’m not advocating for that by any means but there’s no reason for civilians to have ar-15s and the like   IMO.

Khalbali > benn454 10/22/2020 at 20:41

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Maybe down the line but I’m pretty set on the wrangler for my starter, good brand, good price, cheap(er ) ammo, I want to get at least a couple thousand rounds in before I think about upgrading at all. Plus I'd burn through ammo way too quickly with a semi-auto lol, the single action will slow me down.

Derpwagon > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 21:07

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I disagree entirely that civilians shouldn’t own rifle x y or z. At the end of the day it’s just another tool, and the intent of the user entirely dictates the result. But that’s just like, my opinion man.

Good on you for being safe with it. Regardless of the type of firearm, safety is paramount.

barnie > Khalbali 10/22/2020 at 21:43

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You’re taking steps to be safe for you and yours. Good stuff. Yea, I been around guns and hammers all my life. Dad was and brother is a smith .

NYankee1927 > benn454 10/22/2020 at 22:00

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I feel like it is the 28% APR Mustang of pistols

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > sn4cktimes 10/22/2020 at 23:23

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similarly left sighted but right handed

i see almost nothing through a scope unlesss i shoot lefty

benn454 > Khalbali 10/23/2020 at 00:23

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Yeah, a .22 makes for a great little plinker. And it’s light enough recoil that your wife shouldn’t have a problem with it if you ever convince her to join you. On the other hand, .45 ACP is, shall we say, rather insistent for a handgun when it comes to recoil.

sn4cktimes > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/23/2020 at 00:26

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Huh, and I always found sights harder to use. Lining the two bits up really dinked with my brain. I’ve never shot as a lefty. Always bolt action rifles... besides pump shotguns and the one time I used a lever action rifle. Scopes were okay as long as I could get comfy. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > sn4cktimes 10/23/2020 at 00:38

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tbh..im a better shot with iron sights

funilly enough shooting lefty is really really awkward if you arent a lefty...lol

but yeah..likewise only ever shot bolt action rifles (well...and a luger)